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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My secret is dumping the guilt. 

Our Christmas routine built up over the years into a frantic attempt to shove the True Meaning of Christmas down everyone&#039;s throats. We did service projects, Secret Santa trades with the siblings (you know, they draw a name and do nice things for that person for a week), scriptural advent calendars, multiple Family Home Evening lessons, carols, reading scriptures and singing every night, making dozens of hand-decorated cookies for teachers and neighbors... AAAAAGH! I felt guilty that my kids WANTED presents (gasp!). I somehow thought that this was my big occasion to make a spiritual mark on the family. I don&#039;t believe that anymore.

So now I&#039;m determined to relax. I still send out dozens and dozens of cards because it&#039;s important to me. I love buying gifts for my kids and I refuse to feel badly for indulging their lust for worldly treasures once a year. We focus on a few spiritually-centered activities and other traditions that are special for us, and every time I get the guilt-filled urge to do more religious/spiritual things or fewer non-religious things, I remind myself that our family&#039;s devotion to Christ is not dependent on what we do during the month of December.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My secret is dumping the guilt. </p>
<p>Our Christmas routine built up over the years into a frantic attempt to shove the True Meaning of Christmas down everyone&#8217;s throats. We did service projects, Secret Santa trades with the siblings (you know, they draw a name and do nice things for that person for a week), scriptural advent calendars, multiple Family Home Evening lessons, carols, reading scriptures and singing every night, making dozens of hand-decorated cookies for teachers and neighbors&#8230; AAAAAGH! I felt guilty that my kids WANTED presents (gasp!). I somehow thought that this was my big occasion to make a spiritual mark on the family. I don&#8217;t believe that anymore.</p>
<p>So now I&#8217;m determined to relax. I still send out dozens and dozens of cards because it&#8217;s important to me. I love buying gifts for my kids and I refuse to feel badly for indulging their lust for worldly treasures once a year. We focus on a few spiritually-centered activities and other traditions that are special for us, and every time I get the guilt-filled urge to do more religious/spiritual things or fewer non-religious things, I remind myself that our family&#8217;s devotion to Christ is not dependent on what we do during the month of December.</p>
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		<title>By: jennifergg</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>jennifergg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really struggling with Christmas this year.  And last year too, actually, and the year before.  It seemed to escalate into a big whirlwind that left me feeling sad and exhausted.  The kids seemed overly anxious and hyper.  It&#039;s not what I want for my family!

I love the ideas here, thank you for sharing.  I love the candlelight and votives, the three gifts, the plea for sanity from Dalene.  Each year I vow to try better.  Maybe this year will be the one.

Thanks for the ideas and the encouragment.  I really appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really struggling with Christmas this year.  And last year too, actually, and the year before.  It seemed to escalate into a big whirlwind that left me feeling sad and exhausted.  The kids seemed overly anxious and hyper.  It&#8217;s not what I want for my family!</p>
<p>I love the ideas here, thank you for sharing.  I love the candlelight and votives, the three gifts, the plea for sanity from Dalene.  Each year I vow to try better.  Maybe this year will be the one.</p>
<p>Thanks for the ideas and the encouragment.  I really appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of taking stuff to a shelter on Christmas Eve. That might be a good option for us, since South America is unfortunately out of the picture.

Our favorite family tradition is eating our Christmas Eve dinner by candlelight. We have a big candle in the center of the table that represents Jesus, and each person has a small votive of their own. We each light our candle from the big one and read a &quot;light&quot; scripture. It&#039;s simple and the kids love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of taking stuff to a shelter on Christmas Eve. That might be a good option for us, since South America is unfortunately out of the picture.</p>
<p>Our favorite family tradition is eating our Christmas Eve dinner by candlelight. We have a big candle in the center of the table that represents Jesus, and each person has a small votive of their own. We each light our candle from the big one and read a &#8220;light&#8221; scripture. It&#8217;s simple and the kids love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Christmas, but not for all the stuff. I&#039;m trying to get rid of stuff. A friend of mine takes her entire family to South America each Christmas to build homes for poor villagers. That would be my best Christmas ever if I could just have enough money to get there with all 7 of us.

I love decorating and putting up the tree, but I hate the shopping and all the new stuff we get that I now have to take care of, dust, insure, clean, and store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Christmas, but not for all the stuff. I&#8217;m trying to get rid of stuff. A friend of mine takes her entire family to South America each Christmas to build homes for poor villagers. That would be my best Christmas ever if I could just have enough money to get there with all 7 of us.</p>
<p>I love decorating and putting up the tree, but I hate the shopping and all the new stuff we get that I now have to take care of, dust, insure, clean, and store.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can testify to j5t&#039;s neighbors. Quite hillarious actually!
Johnna, I am buying that book--thanks for the link. And I will remember: &quot;Such rejoicing is evil.&quot;
There have been so many suggestions here that are so useful. Thank you for taking time to help a friend in needed. I will keep you all posted (pardon the pun).
And just so I am honest, we went to Target last night and I am almost done. Something is driving me to get it all out of the way. Maybe it&#039;s like Dalene, and my husband is secretly taking me to Hawaii. In that case, Mele Kalikimaka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can testify to j5t&#8217;s neighbors. Quite hillarious actually!<br />
Johnna, I am buying that book&#8211;thanks for the link. And I will remember: &#8220;Such rejoicing is evil.&#8221;<br />
There have been so many suggestions here that are so useful. Thank you for taking time to help a friend in needed. I will keep you all posted (pardon the pun).<br />
And just so I am honest, we went to Target last night and I am almost done. Something is driving me to get it all out of the way. Maybe it&#8217;s like Dalene, and my husband is secretly taking me to Hawaii. In that case, Mele Kalikimaka.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalene</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. I shop at Costco--when I remember--and I don&#039;t have any of my Christmas shopping done yet. I&#039;m still looking forward to Thanksgiving.

j5t: Let&#039;s have a field trip this season to see if my Griswold-y neighbors can hold a C-7 bulb to your Griswold-y neighbors. I save a grundle on my electricity bill because their lights are so bright there&#039;s no need for me to decorate--I can just look out the window across the street!

We do the ornament thing too. I&#039;ve heard about the jammies tradition, but with four boys/men in the house I haven&#039;t bothered. Do you know how hard it is to get the male species to wear pajamas?

The biggest challenge--but also the best part--is to get your kids to think about giving more than about getting. Some years are better than others. But the best Christmases are when we actually succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. I shop at Costco&#8211;when I remember&#8211;and I don&#8217;t have any of my Christmas shopping done yet. I&#8217;m still looking forward to Thanksgiving.</p>
<p>j5t: Let&#8217;s have a field trip this season to see if my Griswold-y neighbors can hold a C-7 bulb to your Griswold-y neighbors. I save a grundle on my electricity bill because their lights are so bright there&#8217;s no need for me to decorate&#8211;I can just look out the window across the street!</p>
<p>We do the ornament thing too. I&#8217;ve heard about the jammies tradition, but with four boys/men in the house I haven&#8217;t bothered. Do you know how hard it is to get the male species to wear pajamas?</p>
<p>The biggest challenge&#8211;but also the best part&#8211;is to get your kids to think about giving more than about getting. Some years are better than others. But the best Christmases are when we actually succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnna</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had six married-without-children Christmases.  Some were disappointing, since my husband and I have quite different ideas of Christmas and the negotiations could get harsh and the results pleased no one.  Some were bad because other people treated us like we didn&#039;t count--we were too often guests at someone else&#039;s Christmas.  Having kids old enough for us to refuse holiday travel was a boost to Christmas--but having kids also was the occasion to turn the holidays into a fury signifying nothing.

The best answer I ever found was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780688109615/Unplug_the_Christmas_Machine/index.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unplug the Christmas Machine.&lt;/a&gt;  It helped me figure out how to celebrate Christ&#039;s birth joyfully and meet my family&#039;s actual hopes and not my exaggerated misunderstandings.

Funny, I thought about Christmas gifts for the first time this week too.   Finishing shopping before Veteran&#039;s Day is a bit strange, up there with once-a-month cooking and stamping everyone&#039;s birthday cards on January 2nd.   Though my very nice friend Janet D. can do all that and never boast.  

To those over-organized ladies who do boast, I say&lt;a href=&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org/en/james/4/13-16#13&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; James 4:13-16&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had six married-without-children Christmases.  Some were disappointing, since my husband and I have quite different ideas of Christmas and the negotiations could get harsh and the results pleased no one.  Some were bad because other people treated us like we didn&#8217;t count&#8211;we were too often guests at someone else&#8217;s Christmas.  Having kids old enough for us to refuse holiday travel was a boost to Christmas&#8211;but having kids also was the occasion to turn the holidays into a fury signifying nothing.</p>
<p>The best answer I ever found was <a href="http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780688109615/Unplug_the_Christmas_Machine/index.aspx" rel="nofollow">Unplug the Christmas Machine.</a>  It helped me figure out how to celebrate Christ&#8217;s birth joyfully and meet my family&#8217;s actual hopes and not my exaggerated misunderstandings.</p>
<p>Funny, I thought about Christmas gifts for the first time this week too.   Finishing shopping before Veteran&#8217;s Day is a bit strange, up there with once-a-month cooking and stamping everyone&#8217;s birthday cards on January 2nd.   Though my very nice friend Janet D. can do all that and never boast.  </p>
<p>To those over-organized ladies who do boast, I say<a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/james/4/13-16#13" rel="nofollow"> James 4:13-16</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: *Gu*</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>*Gu*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what you guys are TALKING about... like i said, this is our third cmas together- still no kids- and i&#039;m kind of looking forward to it!  I say (as hard as i KNOW that it is sometimes) ENJOY THE SEASON YOU&quot;RE IN- one day you&#039;ll look back and wonder where it went!!!
Completely spoil each other with more than you could ever think was practical and spend these years getting to know/love/spend time alone with each other like you might not otherwise.
We&#039;re looking forward to spending cmas/cmas eve alone together... maybe visit extended family for dinner or something, but we&#039;re going to relish in sleeping in and focusing on ourselves... maybe (hopefully) we won&#039;t be able to be as selfish forever!!! (oh, and find a few kids who need a cmas, and buy a gifty or two for them)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what you guys are TALKING about&#8230; like i said, this is our third cmas together- still no kids- and i&#8217;m kind of looking forward to it!  I say (as hard as i KNOW that it is sometimes) ENJOY THE SEASON YOU&#8221;RE IN- one day you&#8217;ll look back and wonder where it went!!!<br />
Completely spoil each other with more than you could ever think was practical and spend these years getting to know/love/spend time alone with each other like you might not otherwise.<br />
We&#8217;re looking forward to spending cmas/cmas eve alone together&#8230; maybe visit extended family for dinner or something, but we&#8217;re going to relish in sleeping in and focusing on ourselves&#8230; maybe (hopefully) we won&#8217;t be able to be as selfish forever!!! (oh, and find a few kids who need a cmas, and buy a gifty or two for them)</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 04:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Leisha, the magic just doesn&#039;t come back until you have kids.  I know that is NOT what you wanted to hear :( . My husband and I were married 5 years before we had our daughter and the first three of them I made him sleep over at my parents, just to try and recapture the magic.  

All I know is that the more effort I try and put into Christmas, the more mellancholy I feel.  Just do the things that make YOU and Chup feel good and embrace family and love and others... and make sure your parents still get you whatever you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Leisha, the magic just doesn&#8217;t come back until you have kids.  I know that is NOT what you wanted to hear <img src='http://segullah.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  . My husband and I were married 5 years before we had our daughter and the first three of them I made him sleep over at my parents, just to try and recapture the magic.  </p>
<p>All I know is that the more effort I try and put into Christmas, the more mellancholy I feel.  Just do the things that make YOU and Chup feel good and embrace family and love and others&#8230; and make sure your parents still get you whatever you want.</p>
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		<title>By: j5t</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/cjane-speaks/its-coming/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>j5t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 02:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pulled -yanked, really- between my desire to have all of my gifts wrapped and mailed before Thanksgiving, and my LOVE of going to the stores earlyearlyearly on the morning after Thanksgiving, as well as shopping each night of December.  We spend that day after Thanksgiving decorating for Christmas.  

Also, I&#039;m sandwiched (across the street and behind us) between the two most Griswold-y families in all of Provo:  They already have a plethora (yen) of lights on their houses, and they&#039;re out there adding more and more each day.  This year (week), that got me thinking about how I actually like Thanksgiving, and I wish more people celebrated it instead of just treating it like a filler between Halloween and Christmas.  

What we do:
~as I said before, let Thanksgiving be Thanksgiving and decorate for Christmas AFTER.  
~new Christmas jammies given to wear the entire month of December (and, inevitably, during the summer sometimes)
~a new ornament for each kid, each year
~On Christmas Eve, take a plethora (yen) of items to The Road Home, a homeless shelter in Salt Lake
~Each kid gets three gifts (two from parents, one from Santa, plus stocking) because that&#039;s how many Jesus got.  I totally bogarted this from la yen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pulled -yanked, really- between my desire to have all of my gifts wrapped and mailed before Thanksgiving, and my LOVE of going to the stores earlyearlyearly on the morning after Thanksgiving, as well as shopping each night of December.  We spend that day after Thanksgiving decorating for Christmas.  </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m sandwiched (across the street and behind us) between the two most Griswold-y families in all of Provo:  They already have a plethora (yen) of lights on their houses, and they&#8217;re out there adding more and more each day.  This year (week), that got me thinking about how I actually like Thanksgiving, and I wish more people celebrated it instead of just treating it like a filler between Halloween and Christmas.  </p>
<p>What we do:<br />
~as I said before, let Thanksgiving be Thanksgiving and decorate for Christmas AFTER.<br />
~new Christmas jammies given to wear the entire month of December (and, inevitably, during the summer sometimes)<br />
~a new ornament for each kid, each year<br />
~On Christmas Eve, take a plethora (yen) of items to The Road Home, a homeless shelter in Salt Lake<br />
~Each kid gets three gifts (two from parents, one from Santa, plus stocking) because that&#8217;s how many Jesus got.  I totally bogarted this from la yen.</p>
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