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		<title>By: Katey</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-156680</link>
		<dc:creator>Katey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a youngest child of 5, I have two brother&#039;s and a sister from my &quot;sperm&quot; donor, and a sister from my mother and i was the 5th. I am a mother of 4 wonderful children and one one the way, I can understand some of the hardship&#039;s and i have to say it has been a blessing to have the support from my step dad and mother and my mother in law.. 
I have been with my husband for 8 years. we started our &quot;family&quot; when he was 16 and i had just turned 19. I love him to death but i have learned that the expectations i have for him will never come true and he helps out when he wants to help out and i am the main on to take care of the kids. 
I remember growing up going to alot of differant things camping, skiing, fishing. The siciety here anymore dont do that.. they think that is u dont have any money to stay home and sit around.. no i like to go running around and playing with the kids.. cause as much as i hate to say they are entertained so am i!.
Oh and my oldest child is 6 years old and i have a 4 year old along with a 3 year old and 2 year old three girls and 1 boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a youngest child of 5, I have two brother&#8217;s and a sister from my &#8220;sperm&#8221; donor, and a sister from my mother and i was the 5th. I am a mother of 4 wonderful children and one one the way, I can understand some of the hardship&#8217;s and i have to say it has been a blessing to have the support from my step dad and mother and my mother in law..<br />
I have been with my husband for 8 years. we started our &#8220;family&#8221; when he was 16 and i had just turned 19. I love him to death but i have learned that the expectations i have for him will never come true and he helps out when he wants to help out and i am the main on to take care of the kids.<br />
I remember growing up going to alot of differant things camping, skiing, fishing. The siciety here anymore dont do that.. they think that is u dont have any money to stay home and sit around.. no i like to go running around and playing with the kids.. cause as much as i hate to say they are entertained so am i!.<br />
Oh and my oldest child is 6 years old and i have a 4 year old along with a 3 year old and 2 year old three girls and 1 boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-145128</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming from a small family can be a drag too.  How about having a parent try to micromanage every aspect of your life?  Or having nobody to hang out with? If you ask around I think you&#039;ll find that feeling &quot;not wanted&quot; is just as possible for children in a small family.

I personally like my kids older. Babies are not my favorite.  So I really enjoy spending time with my children as they get bigger.  

Do my kids have more responsibilities than their friends with one or two siblings?  Absolutely.  And that&#039;s one of the benefits.  While their friends spend all day playing video games while their moms make their beds, my kids are learning to work hard and watch out for each other.  I think taking care of each other is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from a small family can be a drag too.  How about having a parent try to micromanage every aspect of your life?  Or having nobody to hang out with? If you ask around I think you&#8217;ll find that feeling &#8220;not wanted&#8221; is just as possible for children in a small family.</p>
<p>I personally like my kids older. Babies are not my favorite.  So I really enjoy spending time with my children as they get bigger.  </p>
<p>Do my kids have more responsibilities than their friends with one or two siblings?  Absolutely.  And that&#8217;s one of the benefits.  While their friends spend all day playing video games while their moms make their beds, my kids are learning to work hard and watch out for each other.  I think taking care of each other is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: jordy</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-145085</link>
		<dc:creator>jordy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I am one of seven children from a Mormon family. To be truthful, I find your blog post offensive. Practically each paragraph talks all about how much YOU are suffering due to the large amount of children you have. Have you ever thought that its not so fun for your kids, either? You most likely grew up in a medium to small family, which is why you thought it would be so wonderful to have a dozen kids, or whatever, in the first place.

As an older child of a family of seven, I was changing diapers, cleaning, cooking, and babysitting my younger siblings before I was ten years old. Where other children would be playing and enjoying their childhood, I was helping to raise my parents children. All because of my parent&#039;s (specifically my mom&#039;s) insatiable need for babies. Babies, not children. Once the infant reached about age 3, she would have another baby, and we (older children) would take care of the children she left behind. I recently talked to my younger brother, and asked him about what it was like growing up. He said that he felt like no one ever wanted him around. My mom would hand him off to me or my older siblings, while she tended to the newest baby. None of us wanted to care for him (or any of the children we were handed), my mom because she always had a baby, and us older children because we were children missing out on childhood. 

It is sad for everyone involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I am one of seven children from a Mormon family. To be truthful, I find your blog post offensive. Practically each paragraph talks all about how much YOU are suffering due to the large amount of children you have. Have you ever thought that its not so fun for your kids, either? You most likely grew up in a medium to small family, which is why you thought it would be so wonderful to have a dozen kids, or whatever, in the first place.</p>
<p>As an older child of a family of seven, I was changing diapers, cleaning, cooking, and babysitting my younger siblings before I was ten years old. Where other children would be playing and enjoying their childhood, I was helping to raise my parents children. All because of my parent&#8217;s (specifically my mom&#8217;s) insatiable need for babies. Babies, not children. Once the infant reached about age 3, she would have another baby, and we (older children) would take care of the children she left behind. I recently talked to my younger brother, and asked him about what it was like growing up. He said that he felt like no one ever wanted him around. My mom would hand him off to me or my older siblings, while she tended to the newest baby. None of us wanted to care for him (or any of the children we were handed), my mom because she always had a baby, and us older children because we were children missing out on childhood. </p>
<p>It is sad for everyone involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-128773</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
It is so nice to know someone out there understands my life.  I have to say you are a fortuante mother if your large family has many daughters that can be dressed like twins.  Somehow it doesn&#039;t have the same affect with my sons--they just look like a basketball team or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!<br />
It is so nice to know someone out there understands my life.  I have to say you are a fortuante mother if your large family has many daughters that can be dressed like twins.  Somehow it doesn&#8217;t have the same affect with my sons&#8211;they just look like a basketball team or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-110263</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so us right now!! I&#039;m expecting number six and have experienced every single thing in your list!! Thanks for the laugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so us right now!! I&#8217;m expecting number six and have experienced every single thing in your list!! Thanks for the laugh!</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-108536</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize I&#039;m coming to this conversation a bit late, but this is a topic I&#039;ve been thinking a lot about lately. I&#039;m from a family of 5 children. Growing up Mormon, I absorbed the idea that limiting family size was a bit iniquitous and that it&#039;s my duty to have a lot of children--as many as I can handle (but err on the side of a lot rather than a few). Once I got to college and was actually reaching marriageable age, the idea of having lots of kids rather scared me. I get overwhelmed by logistics (I have trouble balancing more than 4 classes a semester) and I get emotionally fatigued very quickly. I firmly believe that Motherhood will be my most important calling in life, but I can hardly take care of my own needs and can&#039;t imagine having the emotional and physical energy for more than 3-4 children (though my ideas will obviously change once I begin having the young &#039;uns).

Anyway, in order to resolve my guilt surrounding this issue, I did a bit of investigating. This is going to sound kind of funny, but I looked up every single one of the current First Presidency and Twelve Apostles and recorded how many children they each have. Turns out half of them have 3 or fewer children. The other half have 5-10 children each. Anyway, I realized that the Lord&#039;s commandment is simply to have children. The number really isn&#039;t as important as fulfilling the call to be a mother/father, and there&#039;s room for all kinds of diversity within the Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize I&#8217;m coming to this conversation a bit late, but this is a topic I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about lately. I&#8217;m from a family of 5 children. Growing up Mormon, I absorbed the idea that limiting family size was a bit iniquitous and that it&#8217;s my duty to have a lot of children&#8211;as many as I can handle (but err on the side of a lot rather than a few). Once I got to college and was actually reaching marriageable age, the idea of having lots of kids rather scared me. I get overwhelmed by logistics (I have trouble balancing more than 4 classes a semester) and I get emotionally fatigued very quickly. I firmly believe that Motherhood will be my most important calling in life, but I can hardly take care of my own needs and can&#8217;t imagine having the emotional and physical energy for more than 3-4 children (though my ideas will obviously change once I begin having the young &#8216;uns).</p>
<p>Anyway, in order to resolve my guilt surrounding this issue, I did a bit of investigating. This is going to sound kind of funny, but I looked up every single one of the current First Presidency and Twelve Apostles and recorded how many children they each have. Turns out half of them have 3 or fewer children. The other half have 5-10 children each. Anyway, I realized that the Lord&#8217;s commandment is simply to have children. The number really isn&#8217;t as important as fulfilling the call to be a mother/father, and there&#8217;s room for all kinds of diversity within the Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Mish</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-102153</link>
		<dc:creator>Mish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this post!  I am &#039;only&#039; 24, have been married for 5 great years, and have 3 children.  I grew up in UT and I guess it never occurred to me that having a bunch of kids in my early 20&#039;s was strange....until my husband joined the Navy and we moved to VA.  What an eye-opening experience!  I love having my kids, and I have a lot more energy than some of the older moms-of-tots in my ward.  Yes, I too get comment after comment concerning my age, number of kids, yadayadayada.  Families are fun.  I think the Lord is pleased with any family courageous enough to bring a child into the world AND take care of it during a time when families seem to matter the least in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this post!  I am &#8216;only&#8217; 24, have been married for 5 great years, and have 3 children.  I grew up in UT and I guess it never occurred to me that having a bunch of kids in my early 20&#8242;s was strange&#8230;.until my husband joined the Navy and we moved to VA.  What an eye-opening experience!  I love having my kids, and I have a lot more energy than some of the older moms-of-tots in my ward.  Yes, I too get comment after comment concerning my age, number of kids, yadayadayada.  Families are fun.  I think the Lord is pleased with any family courageous enough to bring a child into the world AND take care of it during a time when families seem to matter the least in society.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous post of epic proportions</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-98233</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous post of epic proportions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post, and for all the comments. I, too, am the oldest of six kids, and became the second-mom to the younger kids. I loved the responsibility (typical Type A, oldest child syndrome here) that my parents afforded me, and the bonds that connected me to my younger siblings. Did we have lots of money? No. Did we go on fancy vacations? No. Did we have instant playmates? Yes. Did we have an instant support network? Yes, and still do. I wouldn&#039;t trade any of my siblings (although during my teenage years when my little brother would embarrass me by wearing my, uh, unmentionables to answer the door when dates came to pick me up, I might have been persuaded to trade HIM in!) for more money or for better vacations.

I wanted eight kids of my own. Then I had miscarriage after miscarriage and alternated between blaming God and blaming myself. What was I doing wrong? Should I have been doing something I wasn&#039;t? What it boiled down to was a temper tantrum on my part: &quot;WHY aren&#039;t you (God) giving ME what I want.&quot; One of my wisest friends suggested that I try *gasp* reframing my prayers in the form of questions, such as, &quot;What would you have me do instead of having babies right now? or What can I learn from this experience to help prepare me for future events?&quot; as opposed to demanding Him to bend His will to mine. Anyone who has a two-year old can probably relate. Sigh.

After six years years of painful fertility treatments, multiple miscarriages, and emotional/spiritual contrition, I got pregnant. I don&#039;t think it hinged on whether I was or wasn&#039;t doing the right things. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. Biology happens. I do NOT think that God was purposely keeping me from having children at that point. However, I DO think that HE can aid us in making the most of and getting the most out of difficult situations. I taught HS for over a decade, got a Master&#039;s degree, traveled to Europe and all over the states with my husband, forging an amazing relationship with him in the process.

Four horrendous pregnancies later, which included being hooked up to an IV for hydration, vomiting non-stop for months-to the point where a home health nurse had to help care for me, placenta previa, toxemia blah blah blah you name it, I probably had it-I have four beautiful, wonderful children. And that is all I can handle. I mentioned in passing to God that perhaps He could have given me twins or triplets had He expected me to have more than four children given the deplorable condition I was in during my pregnancies. I thought the idea of a twofer was brilliant! There was no response from Him, however, so I&#039;m pretty sure He&#039;s fine with my having only four.

I spent years desperately dreaming of being pregnant, then months wishing the pregnancies were over. People who know me now have no idea what I went through to get those kids here, so I guess it&#039;s just dangerous to judge anyone&#039;s situation because there&#039;s more to it than one realizes. Case in point: I was told by a well-meaning (I think) home teacher that I was going to hell b/c I&#039;d been married for several years and wasn&#039;t pregnant yet. I snapped and harangued him with the list of procedures I had been undergoing and he certainly left my home more sheepishly than he entered it.

If we can all give everyone the benefit of the doubt, that everyone is doing their best with their circumstances, we&#039;d all have more free time on our hands:-) 

My point is that even though I wanted a big, big family, circumstances prevented that from happening. It&#039;s a personal decision that really shouldn&#039;t be anyone else&#039;s business..ha ha...I live in Utah now, so I know how THAT works! Have as many kids as you feel you&#039;re able, care for them, love them, bring them up to be contributing members of society, and then sleep well at night knowing that you&#039;re doing your part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post, and for all the comments. I, too, am the oldest of six kids, and became the second-mom to the younger kids. I loved the responsibility (typical Type A, oldest child syndrome here) that my parents afforded me, and the bonds that connected me to my younger siblings. Did we have lots of money? No. Did we go on fancy vacations? No. Did we have instant playmates? Yes. Did we have an instant support network? Yes, and still do. I wouldn&#8217;t trade any of my siblings (although during my teenage years when my little brother would embarrass me by wearing my, uh, unmentionables to answer the door when dates came to pick me up, I might have been persuaded to trade HIM in!) for more money or for better vacations.</p>
<p>I wanted eight kids of my own. Then I had miscarriage after miscarriage and alternated between blaming God and blaming myself. What was I doing wrong? Should I have been doing something I wasn&#8217;t? What it boiled down to was a temper tantrum on my part: &#8220;WHY aren&#8217;t you (God) giving ME what I want.&#8221; One of my wisest friends suggested that I try *gasp* reframing my prayers in the form of questions, such as, &#8220;What would you have me do instead of having babies right now? or What can I learn from this experience to help prepare me for future events?&#8221; as opposed to demanding Him to bend His will to mine. Anyone who has a two-year old can probably relate. Sigh.</p>
<p>After six years years of painful fertility treatments, multiple miscarriages, and emotional/spiritual contrition, I got pregnant. I don&#8217;t think it hinged on whether I was or wasn&#8217;t doing the right things. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. Biology happens. I do NOT think that God was purposely keeping me from having children at that point. However, I DO think that HE can aid us in making the most of and getting the most out of difficult situations. I taught HS for over a decade, got a Master&#8217;s degree, traveled to Europe and all over the states with my husband, forging an amazing relationship with him in the process.</p>
<p>Four horrendous pregnancies later, which included being hooked up to an IV for hydration, vomiting non-stop for months-to the point where a home health nurse had to help care for me, placenta previa, toxemia blah blah blah you name it, I probably had it-I have four beautiful, wonderful children. And that is all I can handle. I mentioned in passing to God that perhaps He could have given me twins or triplets had He expected me to have more than four children given the deplorable condition I was in during my pregnancies. I thought the idea of a twofer was brilliant! There was no response from Him, however, so I&#8217;m pretty sure He&#8217;s fine with my having only four.</p>
<p>I spent years desperately dreaming of being pregnant, then months wishing the pregnancies were over. People who know me now have no idea what I went through to get those kids here, so I guess it&#8217;s just dangerous to judge anyone&#8217;s situation because there&#8217;s more to it than one realizes. Case in point: I was told by a well-meaning (I think) home teacher that I was going to hell b/c I&#8217;d been married for several years and wasn&#8217;t pregnant yet. I snapped and harangued him with the list of procedures I had been undergoing and he certainly left my home more sheepishly than he entered it.</p>
<p>If we can all give everyone the benefit of the doubt, that everyone is doing their best with their circumstances, we&#8217;d all have more free time on our hands:-) </p>
<p>My point is that even though I wanted a big, big family, circumstances prevented that from happening. It&#8217;s a personal decision that really shouldn&#8217;t be anyone else&#8217;s business..ha ha&#8230;I live in Utah now, so I know how THAT works! Have as many kids as you feel you&#8217;re able, care for them, love them, bring them up to be contributing members of society, and then sleep well at night knowing that you&#8217;re doing your part.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous to protect the innocent</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-97911</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous to protect the innocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just keep having them until the idea of having one more made me want to die&quot; -- LOL!  I think your approach to family planning is not too unlike mine.  I&#039;ve also really worked to get my kids here, although for different reasons (health challenges.)

I wish I could remember which guy it was on one of the LDS blogs who, when this topic came up, said, &quot;We have eight children.  We only wanted two children, but we wanted to have two GOOD ones.&quot;  So funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just keep having them until the idea of having one more made me want to die&#8221; &#8212; LOL!  I think your approach to family planning is not too unlike mine.  I&#8217;ve also really worked to get my kids here, although for different reasons (health challenges.)</p>
<p>I wish I could remember which guy it was on one of the LDS blogs who, when this topic came up, said, &#8220;We have eight children.  We only wanted two children, but we wanted to have two GOOD ones.&#8221;  So funny.</p>
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		<title>By: christine</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/having-a-large-family/#comment-97908</link>
		<dc:creator>christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a funny little story- we just got back from a cross-country flight and as I trooped my five kids through the airport security, all around the airport were newspapers with large headlines proclaiming &quot;Utah has the highest birthrate in the nation!&quot; the only thing I could think as I tried to herd them all into getting their shoes back on was &quot;no freaking kidding.&quot;

-On another note- my husband&#039;s last (of eight) sibling was married this weekend.  Nothing can beat the feeling we had of all of us being in the temple together- Eight siblings, eight spouses. For my in-laws it was the highlight of their lives and you can bet they thought all their sacrifice through the years was worth it.  I&#039;m not sure how they did it-but it can be done!  And we all get along too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a funny little story- we just got back from a cross-country flight and as I trooped my five kids through the airport security, all around the airport were newspapers with large headlines proclaiming &#8220;Utah has the highest birthrate in the nation!&#8221; the only thing I could think as I tried to herd them all into getting their shoes back on was &#8220;no freaking kidding.&#8221;</p>
<p>-On another note- my husband&#8217;s last (of eight) sibling was married this weekend.  Nothing can beat the feeling we had of all of us being in the temple together- Eight siblings, eight spouses. For my in-laws it was the highlight of their lives and you can bet they thought all their sacrifice through the years was worth it.  I&#8217;m not sure how they did it-but it can be done!  And we all get along too!</p>
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