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		<title>By: rachel</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129996</link>
		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey brooke...
the best thing that ever happened to my prayers was marrying someone that wasn&#039;t lds and hasn&#039;t prayed since he was a child.  i am more mindful of what i say instead of saying the same prayers over and over.  sometimes he says amen at the end of a prayer and sometimes he doesn&#039;t.  i know when he feels something b/c that&#039;s when he gives a real heartfelt amen.  i try not to use his amens as a way to measure how sincere my prayers are, but it&#039;s difficult not.....esp. b/c he knows when i&#039;ve said a prayer to just say a prayer or when i&#039;ve said one so the two of us can commune with our Eternal Father.

i don&#039;t kneel.  i&#039;ve never been one for kneeling.  i know why we&#039;re taught to do it, but i think it&#039;s necessary.

when i was in high school i got into the habit of thanking Heavenly Father throughout the day.  it started when i was almost killed in early morning seminary by a machete.  that was a life changing experience for me.  i became more prayerful.  every time the bell would ring at school i would thank God for being alive.  that habit ended after high school, but what it began was a habit of continually thanking God for little things throughout the day.  not formal prayers...but communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey brooke&#8230;<br />
the best thing that ever happened to my prayers was marrying someone that wasn&#8217;t lds and hasn&#8217;t prayed since he was a child.  i am more mindful of what i say instead of saying the same prayers over and over.  sometimes he says amen at the end of a prayer and sometimes he doesn&#8217;t.  i know when he feels something b/c that&#8217;s when he gives a real heartfelt amen.  i try not to use his amens as a way to measure how sincere my prayers are, but it&#8217;s difficult not&#8230;..esp. b/c he knows when i&#8217;ve said a prayer to just say a prayer or when i&#8217;ve said one so the two of us can commune with our Eternal Father.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t kneel.  i&#8217;ve never been one for kneeling.  i know why we&#8217;re taught to do it, but i think it&#8217;s necessary.</p>
<p>when i was in high school i got into the habit of thanking Heavenly Father throughout the day.  it started when i was almost killed in early morning seminary by a machete.  that was a life changing experience for me.  i became more prayerful.  every time the bell would ring at school i would thank God for being alive.  that habit ended after high school, but what it began was a habit of continually thanking God for little things throughout the day.  not formal prayers&#8230;but communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129988</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay that&#039;s twice that i&#039;ve submitted a comment on this thread and it just disappears when i do.  and it&#039;s my bad for not copying it first to repaste in case of error.  the only thing i can imagine is that i had pasted a link in the message...are those automatically tossed into the bloggernackle black hole now?

Anyway, what I was trying to say was that about a year ago, i wrote a post on my blog called Kneeling.  If you want to read it, my name is linked to it in above.  I just had some thoughts about kneeling then, and felt impressed to write about them.  

You&#039;d think that considering the things i wrote that I&#039;d have made some personal strides in this area in the intervening months...but in reality i still struggle with it.  

Lately the topic of prayer has been coming up in lots of places in my world, and i&#039;m still optimistic about finding more joy and constancy in personal prayer. this old dog WILL learn new tricks!  and i&#039;m very grateful for this post, the ensuing discussion, and for the insights shared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay that&#8217;s twice that i&#8217;ve submitted a comment on this thread and it just disappears when i do.  and it&#8217;s my bad for not copying it first to repaste in case of error.  the only thing i can imagine is that i had pasted a link in the message&#8230;are those automatically tossed into the bloggernackle black hole now?</p>
<p>Anyway, what I was trying to say was that about a year ago, i wrote a post on my blog called Kneeling.  If you want to read it, my name is linked to it in above.  I just had some thoughts about kneeling then, and felt impressed to write about them.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that considering the things i wrote that I&#8217;d have made some personal strides in this area in the intervening months&#8230;but in reality i still struggle with it.  </p>
<p>Lately the topic of prayer has been coming up in lots of places in my world, and i&#8217;m still optimistic about finding more joy and constancy in personal prayer. this old dog WILL learn new tricks!  and i&#8217;m very grateful for this post, the ensuing discussion, and for the insights shared.</p>
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		<title>By: Selwyn</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129892</link>
		<dc:creator>Selwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have thought about this often.

For me, the most important thing is that my prayers are true communication/communion with Him. Real, honest stuff. It doesn&#039;t matter when it happens, as long as it does.

I have a friend that finds that her best prayer time is when she is washing the dishes. She thinks maybe it has something to do with the warmth, or being able to do the dishes while doing something very important and uplifting.

I have huge difficulty praying in the morning as soon as I get up, let alone &quot;before you leave your room&quot; as the hymn says. I pray during the day, and pray with my boys before they go to school.

For months last year I prayed every morning as I drove to work - 20 minutes went really fast. It became so automatic that every drive I found myself praying - and real prayer, not rote. I don&#039;t drive to work, so am now praying on my morning walk/run. I find some time that I&#039;m by myself, uninterrupted. I&#039;ve prayed each morning in the shower because that is the first chance I&#039;ve had after becoming coherent!

I pray as things pop into my head, or after talking to or thinking of someone.

As for nighttime prayer? It depends on how tired I am. I go for sincerity over length if I am exhausted (&quot;Thank you for the day I had today. Please watch over us as we sleep&quot; - that&#039;s it) As several people have said, if it&#039;s been a hard day, or something &quot;big&quot; is going on I pray for longer. For longer prayers I kneel as it keeps me focussed on what I am saying, and I find it changes what I pray for.

I remember reading somewhere that it&#039;s the attitude, not the altitude, of prayer that&#039;s important. Works for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have thought about this often.</p>
<p>For me, the most important thing is that my prayers are true communication/communion with Him. Real, honest stuff. It doesn&#8217;t matter when it happens, as long as it does.</p>
<p>I have a friend that finds that her best prayer time is when she is washing the dishes. She thinks maybe it has something to do with the warmth, or being able to do the dishes while doing something very important and uplifting.</p>
<p>I have huge difficulty praying in the morning as soon as I get up, let alone &#8220;before you leave your room&#8221; as the hymn says. I pray during the day, and pray with my boys before they go to school.</p>
<p>For months last year I prayed every morning as I drove to work &#8211; 20 minutes went really fast. It became so automatic that every drive I found myself praying &#8211; and real prayer, not rote. I don&#8217;t drive to work, so am now praying on my morning walk/run. I find some time that I&#8217;m by myself, uninterrupted. I&#8217;ve prayed each morning in the shower because that is the first chance I&#8217;ve had after becoming coherent!</p>
<p>I pray as things pop into my head, or after talking to or thinking of someone.</p>
<p>As for nighttime prayer? It depends on how tired I am. I go for sincerity over length if I am exhausted (&#8220;Thank you for the day I had today. Please watch over us as we sleep&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s it) As several people have said, if it&#8217;s been a hard day, or something &#8220;big&#8221; is going on I pray for longer. For longer prayers I kneel as it keeps me focussed on what I am saying, and I find it changes what I pray for.</p>
<p>I remember reading somewhere that it&#8217;s the attitude, not the altitude, of prayer that&#8217;s important. Works for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Daughter of Eve</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129888</link>
		<dc:creator>Proud Daughter of Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What helps me to pray always is the meltdowns I have if I don&#039;t!  It took awhile for me to notice the pattern but now I see it and I stick to it.  Not that my prayers are always A+ material.  I&#039;m guilty of hurrying things along so I can snuggle into bed too.  But without even that little bit of prayer, sooner or later I&#039;m going to find myself overwhelmed and it&#039;s not pretty.  I don&#039;t ever want to go back to the place I found myself last time I let myself slide.  Already I can feel I need to get back to work on my studying my scriptures, my other great coping tool.  My husband&#039;s been busy with a new sort-of-job and things at my office have been hectic and winter can end any time now, really... and just everything I&#039;m feeling these days... I&#039;d&#039;ve lost it already.

As for kneeling -- well, I fall asleep otherwise.  So I just do.  I figure if I want Him to listen to me, and I want to be able to hear Him, then I need to be in a physical position where I can pay attention.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What helps me to pray always is the meltdowns I have if I don&#8217;t!  It took awhile for me to notice the pattern but now I see it and I stick to it.  Not that my prayers are always A+ material.  I&#8217;m guilty of hurrying things along so I can snuggle into bed too.  But without even that little bit of prayer, sooner or later I&#8217;m going to find myself overwhelmed and it&#8217;s not pretty.  I don&#8217;t ever want to go back to the place I found myself last time I let myself slide.  Already I can feel I need to get back to work on my studying my scriptures, my other great coping tool.  My husband&#8217;s been busy with a new sort-of-job and things at my office have been hectic and winter can end any time now, really&#8230; and just everything I&#8217;m feeling these days&#8230; I&#8217;d've lost it already.</p>
<p>As for kneeling &#8212; well, I fall asleep otherwise.  So I just do.  I figure if I want Him to listen to me, and I want to be able to hear Him, then I need to be in a physical position where I can pay attention.  <img src='http://segullah.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129836</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jana, i think that all the time: i&#039;m insistent that we kneel in family prayer so that my kids learn this way, but i don&#039;t do it on my own! i think the quiet example (of just letting your kids see you do it) is often much louder than the things we just tell them to do.

thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jana, i think that all the time: i&#8217;m insistent that we kneel in family prayer so that my kids learn this way, but i don&#8217;t do it on my own! i think the quiet example (of just letting your kids see you do it) is often much louder than the things we just tell them to do.</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jana</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129835</link>
		<dc:creator>Jana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to say my prayers after i put my kids down to bed and before i begin anything else.

i also have to be alone so i can talk out loud.  if i say a quiet prayer my thoughts wander, and so do my eyes.

and prayer just wouldnt be a prayer if not done on bended knee, ive tried and it never feels right.  but thats me.

its funny how we make sure our kids do all these things and when it comes to ourselves we seem out of energy or something else.  i remember always seeing my mother kneeling in prayer, even mumbling to herself in ernest thought through out the day.  now realize that she was communicating to her Father in Heaven.  it seems a better way to get through the day.  i should try it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to say my prayers after i put my kids down to bed and before i begin anything else.</p>
<p>i also have to be alone so i can talk out loud.  if i say a quiet prayer my thoughts wander, and so do my eyes.</p>
<p>and prayer just wouldnt be a prayer if not done on bended knee, ive tried and it never feels right.  but thats me.</p>
<p>its funny how we make sure our kids do all these things and when it comes to ourselves we seem out of energy or something else.  i remember always seeing my mother kneeling in prayer, even mumbling to herself in ernest thought through out the day.  now realize that she was communicating to her Father in Heaven.  it seems a better way to get through the day.  i should try it!</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129809</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roxie, i love when you talk about &quot;the language of prayer.&quot; and that you say prayers in your mission language. that seems to make it even more special in my book. 

and like m&amp;m said about callouses on her knees: we really just SHOULD think about kneeling more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roxie, i love when you talk about &#8220;the language of prayer.&#8221; and that you say prayers in your mission language. that seems to make it even more special in my book. </p>
<p>and like m&#038;m said about callouses on her knees: we really just SHOULD think about kneeling more.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129808</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think so! i don&#039;t know what happened but thanks for trying!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think so! i don&#8217;t know what happened but thanks for trying!</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129805</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love this earnest post, brooke- bending our wills. While we are all there in theory, sometimes the simplest thing to bend (our knees) is the hardest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love this earnest post, brooke- bending our wills. While we are all there in theory, sometimes the simplest thing to bend (our knees) is the hardest.</p>
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		<title>By: Asha</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/mothers-who-kneel/#comment-129797</link>
		<dc:creator>Asha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lovely post and the ensuing discussion - exactly what I needed. I&#039;ve been thinking a lot lately of the need to strengthen my prayer life, and struggling with the very same issues you&#039;ve raised. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely post and the ensuing discussion &#8211; exactly what I needed. I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot lately of the need to strengthen my prayer life, and struggling with the very same issues you&#8217;ve raised. Thank you.</p>
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