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		<title>By: Dalene</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/weekend-rants/rant-and-rave-or-i-heart-utah-redux/#comment-91412</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things I love about the blog here is how discussions get revisited, so thanks for chiming in Maddison and Christine. Good luck with your recovery Christine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I love about the blog here is how discussions get revisited, so thanks for chiming in Maddison and Christine. Good luck with your recovery Christine!</p>
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		<title>By: christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll comment late too!  I am recovering from some surgery and am going crazy with boredom so I am reading lots of old posts!

I didn&#039;t grow up in Utah but live here now.  I liked where I grew up- Minnesota is beautiful and friendly and a great place to raise a family (we spent 10 years after college too)  

I LOVE living in Utah!  I love the weather (to us, winter feels like spring after Minnesota!) I love the mountains, I love the NO MOSQUITOS (in comparaision)  I love the friendly people, the no humidity and the fact that my kids can find lots of great friends with similar values AND similar interests.  

I miss the closeness of our wards in Minnesota but love the love the fact that I am living the gospel here with my family. Not that I&#039;m trying to avoid work but sometimes I used to feel that my whole life revolved around what was going on in the ward or if I was doing enough.  I have found it easier here to find the joy in the gospel- not just the frenetic life of a busy LDS family.

This is provincial but I love the fact that my 3rd grade daughter&#039;s wonderful teacher met a great man, shared her engagement and plans for a temple marriage with her class and we could go to the reception and watch her and her friends run around admiring their teacher and wanting to BE JUST LIKE HER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll comment late too!  I am recovering from some surgery and am going crazy with boredom so I am reading lots of old posts!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t grow up in Utah but live here now.  I liked where I grew up- Minnesota is beautiful and friendly and a great place to raise a family (we spent 10 years after college too)  </p>
<p>I LOVE living in Utah!  I love the weather (to us, winter feels like spring after Minnesota!) I love the mountains, I love the NO MOSQUITOS (in comparaision)  I love the friendly people, the no humidity and the fact that my kids can find lots of great friends with similar values AND similar interests.  </p>
<p>I miss the closeness of our wards in Minnesota but love the love the fact that I am living the gospel here with my family. Not that I&#8217;m trying to avoid work but sometimes I used to feel that my whole life revolved around what was going on in the ward or if I was doing enough.  I have found it easier here to find the joy in the gospel- not just the frenetic life of a busy LDS family.</p>
<p>This is provincial but I love the fact that my 3rd grade daughter&#8217;s wonderful teacher met a great man, shared her engagement and plans for a temple marriage with her class and we could go to the reception and watch her and her friends run around admiring their teacher and wanting to BE JUST LIKE HER!</p>
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		<title>By: Maddison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are things I love about my state, but I&#039;d rather take your offer to live in Utah and eat green Jell-o!!! 

(Is there a blogging rule about commenting on a month-old post? Just wondering &#039;cause I have no life so I&#039;ve been looking through older posts and came across this one :))

So. I live in CA. Northern, to be exact. What I don&#039;t like about it is how crowded it is getting. All of my sisters and I live in the same town and NEVER run into each other, never. Just this last week our local fair started and on the very first day there was a stabbing, complements of local gangs, of course. Also, because I am not in a high socioeconomic status, I feel like this area is specifically for them, not those like me who live paycheck to paycheck. It&#039;s also known as &quot;Wine Country&quot; which, yes is very beautiful, etc., but as an LDS woman, I don&#039;t find the moniker charming. I guess any LDS families living in Las Vegas or Reno have it worse. Anyway, more than all of those things, I don&#039;t like not having any privacy. Because I have to live in appts., that&#039;s sort of a foregone conclusion that privacy is a non-option. However, I just really want to sit on my porch some mornings in my robe without people looking over to my porch. *sigh* Oh, and how could I forget?!?! THE COST!!! It is so darned expensive to live here! We rent a small two-bedroom on the outskirts of town and pay well over $1,000 per month! I was looking at Utah rentals online and wow, for what we&#039;re paying we could live in a house with a yard! Unheard of here with my income bracket. 

So, something I love. Well, as I mentioned, it is very beautiful. It is basically the exact terrain as Italy, except a little more tepid in temperature. It is/was a very mild mannered town, as I was saying though, there is a large influx of gangs and their goings on. But, it&#039;s fairly crime-free. 

But, alas I do want to live in Utah. I feel like it&#039;s my own personal Zion and truly hope to one day go home. One can dream, can&#039;t they? I was considering going to BYU, so that may be more of a possibility someday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are things I love about my state, but I&#8217;d rather take your offer to live in Utah and eat green Jell-o!!! </p>
<p>(Is there a blogging rule about commenting on a month-old post? Just wondering &#8217;cause I have no life so I&#8217;ve been looking through older posts and came across this one <img src='http://segullah.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>So. I live in CA. Northern, to be exact. What I don&#8217;t like about it is how crowded it is getting. All of my sisters and I live in the same town and NEVER run into each other, never. Just this last week our local fair started and on the very first day there was a stabbing, complements of local gangs, of course. Also, because I am not in a high socioeconomic status, I feel like this area is specifically for them, not those like me who live paycheck to paycheck. It&#8217;s also known as &#8220;Wine Country&#8221; which, yes is very beautiful, etc., but as an LDS woman, I don&#8217;t find the moniker charming. I guess any LDS families living in Las Vegas or Reno have it worse. Anyway, more than all of those things, I don&#8217;t like not having any privacy. Because I have to live in appts., that&#8217;s sort of a foregone conclusion that privacy is a non-option. However, I just really want to sit on my porch some mornings in my robe without people looking over to my porch. *sigh* Oh, and how could I forget?!?! THE COST!!! It is so darned expensive to live here! We rent a small two-bedroom on the outskirts of town and pay well over $1,000 per month! I was looking at Utah rentals online and wow, for what we&#8217;re paying we could live in a house with a yard! Unheard of here with my income bracket. </p>
<p>So, something I love. Well, as I mentioned, it is very beautiful. It is basically the exact terrain as Italy, except a little more tepid in temperature. It is/was a very mild mannered town, as I was saying though, there is a large influx of gangs and their goings on. But, it&#8217;s fairly crime-free. </p>
<p>But, alas I do want to live in Utah. I feel like it&#8217;s my own personal Zion and truly hope to one day go home. One can dream, can&#8217;t they? I was considering going to BYU, so that may be more of a possibility someday!</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in California, but have lived here most of the time since coming to BYU and have now been in Utah almost half of my life--weird!  

There have been all kinds of socially narrow-minded kinds of things I&#039;ve hated over the years, but I can&#039;t seem to think of many these days.  I have a good life here.  I do wish for great variety in politics and I get really irritated at dishonest Mormon business men and women (I&#039;m thinking the percentage of dishonest business people in general is likely the same all over the place, but I . . . oh don&#039;t get me started . . . enough said on that . . . I think my blood pressure was starting to rise).

I do really miss the wide open sky in California, and there is a more free and open feeling there that I also miss.  

I love that I&#039;m not too far from beautiful mountains and desert and farmlands.  I miss living three hours from the beach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in California, but have lived here most of the time since coming to BYU and have now been in Utah almost half of my life&#8211;weird!  </p>
<p>There have been all kinds of socially narrow-minded kinds of things I&#8217;ve hated over the years, but I can&#8217;t seem to think of many these days.  I have a good life here.  I do wish for great variety in politics and I get really irritated at dishonest Mormon business men and women (I&#8217;m thinking the percentage of dishonest business people in general is likely the same all over the place, but I . . . oh don&#8217;t get me started . . . enough said on that . . . I think my blood pressure was starting to rise).</p>
<p>I do really miss the wide open sky in California, and there is a more free and open feeling there that I also miss.  </p>
<p>I love that I&#8217;m not too far from beautiful mountains and desert and farmlands.  I miss living three hours from the beach.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/weekend-rants/rant-and-rave-or-i-heart-utah-redux/#comment-84700</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband &amp; I met at BYU.  He was from Utah, I was from all over the place.   We lived for 5 years in Idaho after graduation and loved it.  Then we moved to Durham NC.  We&#039;ve been here for 13 years now and can&#039;t imagine going anywhere else.  That said, I am always a devil&#039;s advocate when people talk about living in Utah.  If people tell me they can&#039;t stand living there, I have plenty of reasons that it&#039;s a great place to live.  If people tell me that they will never be able to be happy until they&#039;re in Utah, well...I have things to say about that too!

Things I hate about NC: Ministers who preach about Mormons, Christians who are sure that we are evil.  Days that are so hot that the air-conditioning can&#039;t cool down the car. Driving 22 minutes to early morning seminary every morning. Droughts.

Things I love about NC: It is SO BEAUTIFUL here.  Every season makes my heart rejoice.  My back yard looks like the Garden of Eden.  Wards who are not so close geographically that everyone is in everyone else&#039;s business.  Friends who become as dear as family when family is all so far away.  And the very best part--we live 3 hours away from beautiful beaches and the very warm ocean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband &amp; I met at BYU.  He was from Utah, I was from all over the place.   We lived for 5 years in Idaho after graduation and loved it.  Then we moved to Durham NC.  We&#8217;ve been here for 13 years now and can&#8217;t imagine going anywhere else.  That said, I am always a devil&#8217;s advocate when people talk about living in Utah.  If people tell me they can&#8217;t stand living there, I have plenty of reasons that it&#8217;s a great place to live.  If people tell me that they will never be able to be happy until they&#8217;re in Utah, well&#8230;I have things to say about that too!</p>
<p>Things I hate about NC: Ministers who preach about Mormons, Christians who are sure that we are evil.  Days that are so hot that the air-conditioning can&#8217;t cool down the car. Driving 22 minutes to early morning seminary every morning. Droughts.</p>
<p>Things I love about NC: It is SO BEAUTIFUL here.  Every season makes my heart rejoice.  My back yard looks like the Garden of Eden.  Wards who are not so close geographically that everyone is in everyone else&#8217;s business.  Friends who become as dear as family when family is all so far away.  And the very best part&#8211;we live 3 hours away from beautiful beaches and the very warm ocean.</p>
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		<title>By: mormonhermitmom</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/daily-special/weekend-rants/rant-and-rave-or-i-heart-utah-redux/#comment-84490</link>
		<dc:creator>mormonhermitmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in Cedar City, UT.  If you are living there now, I envy you.  I live in Oregon, east of Portland.  I love the forests and the mild winters.  I love the school my kids attend.  I love that my husband can actually have benefits with his job that he could never have in Utah.  I love no sales tax.

I hate that our state taxes are higher, that all the cost of living is higher, and I hate porn shops that are right out in the open with big huge signs letting you know what&#039;s there.

I may be a transplant in Oregon, but my heart is still in Utah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in Cedar City, UT.  If you are living there now, I envy you.  I live in Oregon, east of Portland.  I love the forests and the mild winters.  I love the school my kids attend.  I love that my husband can actually have benefits with his job that he could never have in Utah.  I love no sales tax.</p>
<p>I hate that our state taxes are higher, that all the cost of living is higher, and I hate porn shops that are right out in the open with big huge signs letting you know what&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>I may be a transplant in Oregon, but my heart is still in Utah.</p>
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		<title>By: Dalene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky--UT Valley misses you. Big time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky&#8211;UT Valley misses you. Big time!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually MISS UT Valley :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually MISS UT Valley <img src='http://segullah.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sue-d</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue-d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived in Provo since I was seven years old, I am not sure if my complaints would be specific to Provo, or just to humanity in general.

Therefore, I will choose to focus on my absolute love of Provo!  Everyday I look out from my deck, take a look at those mountains..and all is right in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived in Provo since I was seven years old, I am not sure if my complaints would be specific to Provo, or just to humanity in general.</p>
<p>Therefore, I will choose to focus on my absolute love of Provo!  Everyday I look out from my deck, take a look at those mountains..and all is right in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are moving to WA in a month.  Currently everything here is lovely because I&#039;m feeling all sentimental and weepy.  I will miss lots about Utah, but I&#039;m excited to find things to love in our new town!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are moving to WA in a month.  Currently everything here is lovely because I&#8217;m feeling all sentimental and weepy.  I will miss lots about Utah, but I&#8217;m excited to find things to love in our new town!</p>
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