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		<title>By: interracial facial</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-3184</link>
		<dc:creator>interracial facial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maralise</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>maralise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 05:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather H--Definitely applies to scrapbooking.  In fact, I was just thinking about this today.  I know that geneology is vitally important to the mission of the church.  I know that scrapbooking could be considered part of this duty and honor.  HOWEVER,  it seems to me that sometimes (not always) scrapbooking takes the form of idealizing and rubber stamping the past, running a continual game of catch up, and forever fearing that you\&#039;ll miss life if you don\&#039;t document it when in the process of documenting it, you miss life.

I am trying to become content with not scrapbooking.  I take pictures of my kids, I perfect some of them in photoshop, I show them to certain people, blow some of them up, but most of the pictures sit on my computer for me to look at when I\&#039;m feeling like I want to tear their adorable little heads off.  And maybe that\&#039;s the geneology that I do for that day--remembering that I love them, that they are beautiful little beings, and that I\&#039;m here to help them stay alive long enough in order to spawn their own offspring.  That\&#039;s my job right now.  And I sure hope that counts as geneology because if not, I might be doomed to whatever ring of hell is reserved for people like Justine--those who suck at gardening and scrapbooking and housecleaning and the other womanly arts that are just not as important as we think they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather H&#8211;Definitely applies to scrapbooking.  In fact, I was just thinking about this today.  I know that geneology is vitally important to the mission of the church.  I know that scrapbooking could be considered part of this duty and honor.  HOWEVER,  it seems to me that sometimes (not always) scrapbooking takes the form of idealizing and rubber stamping the past, running a continual game of catch up, and forever fearing that you\&#8217;ll miss life if you don\&#8217;t document it when in the process of documenting it, you miss life.</p>
<p>I am trying to become content with not scrapbooking.  I take pictures of my kids, I perfect some of them in photoshop, I show them to certain people, blow some of them up, but most of the pictures sit on my computer for me to look at when I\&#8217;m feeling like I want to tear their adorable little heads off.  And maybe that\&#8217;s the geneology that I do for that day&#8211;remembering that I love them, that they are beautiful little beings, and that I\&#8217;m here to help them stay alive long enough in order to spawn their own offspring.  That\&#8217;s my job right now.  And I sure hope that counts as geneology because if not, I might be doomed to whatever ring of hell is reserved for people like Justine&#8211;those who suck at gardening and scrapbooking and housecleaning and the other womanly arts that are just not as important as we think they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told my three-year-old son we were going to the craft store. Once we got there, he walked in and looked around. &quot;So, this is the crap store?&quot; Maybe it&#039;s a man thing.

Kristen, I am jealous your elm leaves are coming down. For some reason, ours fall sooooo late (we are surrounded on three sides by those nasty trees--their seeds are like a blizzard in May!). We will be raking the snow in January.

And we still have no garden. I&#039;ve almost decided it&#039;s better that way because when people find out we have no home-grown produce, they shower us with their surplus. Justine, if you&#039;re going to hell for killing plants, I will be right on your heels for reaping where I have not sown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told my three-year-old son we were going to the craft store. Once we got there, he walked in and looked around. &#8220;So, this is the crap store?&#8221; Maybe it&#8217;s a man thing.</p>
<p>Kristen, I am jealous your elm leaves are coming down. For some reason, ours fall sooooo late (we are surrounded on three sides by those nasty trees&#8211;their seeds are like a blizzard in May!). We will be raking the snow in January.</p>
<p>And we still have no garden. I&#8217;ve almost decided it&#8217;s better that way because when people find out we have no home-grown produce, they shower us with their surplus. Justine, if you&#8217;re going to hell for killing plants, I will be right on your heels for reaping where I have not sown.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been laughing my head off at all you crazy women. Thank goodness I am crazy too.  Justine, I have you beat. I have about 6 inches of elm and oak leaves covering my front and back yards here in Nebraska. I have tried to rake twice, both times giving me only momentary pride as within hours there were piles and piles more. This is the first house I&#039;ve lived in...so I stare outside every day and think, &quot;I should be out there taking care of that wretched lawn.&quot; But then I look at my daughter who has spit up and poop all over her, for the third time by 10 am, and I forget about it. And let&#039;s not even get in to &quot;crap-booking,&quot; as Kathy apparently sees it. I just slap the photos in the book and call it good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been laughing my head off at all you crazy women. Thank goodness I am crazy too.  Justine, I have you beat. I have about 6 inches of elm and oak leaves covering my front and back yards here in Nebraska. I have tried to rake twice, both times giving me only momentary pride as within hours there were piles and piles more. This is the first house I&#8217;ve lived in&#8230;so I stare outside every day and think, &#8220;I should be out there taking care of that wretched lawn.&#8221; But then I look at my daughter who has spit up and poop all over her, for the third time by 10 am, and I forget about it. And let&#8217;s not even get in to &#8220;crap-booking,&#8221; as Kathy apparently sees it. I just slap the photos in the book and call it good.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Heather H., some pearls of wisdom for you, courtesy of my husband:

You can&#039;t spell &#039;scrapbook&#039; without &#039;crap.&#039;

Amen, and amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Heather H., some pearls of wisdom for you, courtesy of my husband:</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t spell &#8216;scrapbook&#8217; without &#8216;crap.&#8217;</p>
<p>Amen, and amen!</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew it. You guys are so smart!! I think I must be succumbing to the pressure of being surrounded by neighbors who must all know Martha Stewart.

This has been sooooo good for me to hear from rational people (I tend to avoid rationality) about a silly thing I&#039;ve been stressed out about.

Come to think of it, the only people on my street that don&#039;t have &quot;Better Homes and Gardens&quot; yards are the people with small children. hmmmmm. I&#039;m going inside to have a hot chocolate. Let the three inches of leaves kill the grass, I don&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew it. You guys are so smart!! I think I must be succumbing to the pressure of being surrounded by neighbors who must all know Martha Stewart.</p>
<p>This has been sooooo good for me to hear from rational people (I tend to avoid rationality) about a silly thing I&#8217;ve been stressed out about.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, the only people on my street that don&#8217;t have &#8220;Better Homes and Gardens&#8221; yards are the people with small children. hmmmmm. I&#8217;m going inside to have a hot chocolate. Let the three inches of leaves kill the grass, I don&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post.

I love to garden.  We have a wonderful garden, and we love the produce we get out of it.  That said,I doubt there will be a garden center parked at the pearly gates.  Just like, as my husband tells me often enough, there will also NOT be a Creative Memories center there, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post.</p>
<p>I love to garden.  We have a wonderful garden, and we love the produce we get out of it.  That said,I doubt there will be a garden center parked at the pearly gates.  Just like, as my husband tells me often enough, there will also NOT be a Creative Memories center there, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather H</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mara, does that apply to cute scrapbooking as well?  I think it just might and if I can get into my thick skull soon, then I won&#039;t have to keep dragging out boxes of pretty colored paper and rubber stamps, but I&#039;ll put my pictures into an album instead of a box so they can bring me and my family joy.  I think henceforward I will try not to have guilt over my lack of dedication to that old project of a beautiful and crafty scrapbook!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mara, does that apply to cute scrapbooking as well?  I think it just might and if I can get into my thick skull soon, then I won&#8217;t have to keep dragging out boxes of pretty colored paper and rubber stamps, but I&#8217;ll put my pictures into an album instead of a box so they can bring me and my family joy.  I think henceforward I will try not to have guilt over my lack of dedication to that old project of a beautiful and crafty scrapbook!</p>
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		<title>By: maralise</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>maralise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think any pursuit should be followed because of the positive blessings that it sows, not the negative consequences that come from not doing it.  Otherwise, our perspective becomes one of avoiding the boogy man instead of making ourselves better by trying new things, sustaining dedication to old projects, or just enjoying where we&#039;re at.

It&#039;s a rear-ward thinking philosophy that I think is stifling to the pursuit of things that are more important.  

So Justine, do you like gardening because of the positive blessings that it brings?  If so, do it without worrying about the fact that you abandon it year after year and most of the plants end up dying!  If not, give it up and concentrate on something that is worthwhile for you and your family.  Otherwise, it&#039;s just a bunch of wasted veggies and paralyzing guilt.  Definitely not worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think any pursuit should be followed because of the positive blessings that it sows, not the negative consequences that come from not doing it.  Otherwise, our perspective becomes one of avoiding the boogy man instead of making ourselves better by trying new things, sustaining dedication to old projects, or just enjoying where we&#8217;re at.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a rear-ward thinking philosophy that I think is stifling to the pursuit of things that are more important.  </p>
<p>So Justine, do you like gardening because of the positive blessings that it brings?  If so, do it without worrying about the fact that you abandon it year after year and most of the plants end up dying!  If not, give it up and concentrate on something that is worthwhile for you and your family.  Otherwise, it&#8217;s just a bunch of wasted veggies and paralyzing guilt.  Definitely not worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/the-dirt-and-the-glory/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I\&#039;m confident that at what we produce at the judgment bar need not be...produce.

Hats off to you for even trying, Justine. I gave up guilt gardening years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I\&#8217;m confident that at what we produce at the judgment bar need not be&#8230;produce.</p>
<p>Hats off to you for even trying, Justine. I gave up guilt gardening years ago.</p>
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