Comments on: In the Time of the Butterflies http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/ Mormon women blogging about the peculiar and the treasured Thu, 24 May 2012 14:57:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Keryn http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11454 Keryn Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:18:13 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11454 I have pondered questions like this in relation to the situation in Iraq--again, all politics aside. But it is certainly very dangerous in many parts of that country, and consequently many rich and educated people have fled. Some have stayed and tried to use their wealth/knowledge to better the plight of those with no choice but to stay--and many have been killed, either by the random violence or specific. If it were just me, (i.e. no dependent children) I'd stay. I think. But if you add my babies (even if they were safe in another country or something) I couldn't. My heart just aches thinking about my babies being raised without their mother. Probably that makes me a wimp. In any case, I'm in awe of las Mariposas. I'll have to find that book. I have pondered questions like this in relation to the situation in Iraq–again, all politics aside. But it is certainly very dangerous in many parts of that country, and consequently many rich and educated people have fled. Some have stayed and tried to use their wealth/knowledge to better the plight of those with no choice but to stay–and many have been killed, either by the random violence or specific.

If it were just me, (i.e. no dependent children) I’d stay. I think. But if you add my babies (even if they were safe in another country or something) I couldn’t. My heart just aches thinking about my babies being raised without their mother. Probably that makes me a wimp.

In any case, I’m in awe of las Mariposas. I’ll have to find that book.

]]> By: Heather O. http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11452 Heather O. Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:22:55 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11452 I suppose the pioneers did risk it all, but did they do it in such a deliberate way? The Mirabals had to have known that Trujillo would threaten them, and that their activities were dangerous. The pioneers probably knew there were risks involved in crossing the plains, but a revolution carries a far different risk than an immigratin. I suppose the pioneers did risk it all, but did they do it in such a deliberate way? The Mirabals had to have known that Trujillo would threaten them, and that their activities were dangerous. The pioneers probably knew there were risks involved in crossing the plains, but a revolution carries a far different risk than an immigratin.

]]> By: tracy m http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11451 tracy m Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:51:23 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11451 The pioneers' sacrifice was for the exact same thing, it seems to me... yes, it was faith based, but it was also about freedom, persecution and liberty. The pioneers’ sacrifice was for the exact same thing, it seems to me… yes, it was faith based, but it was also about freedom, persecution and liberty.

]]> By: Emily M. http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11450 Emily M. Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:25:41 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11450 Judy, good point. I think the pioneers saw it as a sacrifice not just for themselves but for their children, so they could be raised in Zion; I wonder if las Mariposas felt the same way. Kristen, I love the idea of your passions finding you. That's been true with me. Judy, good point. I think the pioneers saw it as a sacrifice not just for themselves but for their children, so they could be raised in Zion; I wonder if las Mariposas felt the same way.

Kristen, I love the idea of your passions finding you. That’s been true with me.

]]> By: Judy http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11447 Judy Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:05:38 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11447 Interesting thoughts. It makes me wonder, are the pioneer women who crossed the plains and died, leaving their children motherless, really any different? They both believed in their cause. I'm pretty sure I would have followed the prophet. While this is different because theirs was a political quest, not a religious one, I see many similarities. Interesting thoughts. It makes me wonder, are the pioneer women who crossed the plains and died, leaving their children motherless, really any different? They both believed in their cause. I’m pretty sure I would have followed the prophet. While this is different because theirs was a political quest, not a religious one, I see many similarities.

]]> By: Kristen http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11446 Kristen Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:28:17 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11446 This is one of my favorite books. (The movie is great as well.) I would love to say that I'd give my life for a cause, but right now I don't think I could. Sometimes your passions find you, though, as Terry Tempest Williams says....so perhaps if it were for something that I cared very deeply for, I could dedicate my life to it. Today, though, I have to say that I would rather fight for my children. If I were living in the DR right now and Trujillo was still in power, I'd take my family and leave the country. I'm sure some people would say it's coward-ish, to say, You've got to pick your battles. But without oversimplifying life, I really believe that. For these sisters, they chose to fight for freedom from oppression. All people deserve that basic right. Their story inspires me, and I have so much respect for them. I think some people are born with the character and abilities to do these things. This is one of my favorite books. (The movie is great as well.)

I would love to say that I’d give my life for a cause, but right now I don’t think I could. Sometimes your passions find you, though, as Terry Tempest Williams says….so perhaps if it were for something that I cared very deeply for, I could dedicate my life to it.

Today, though, I have to say that I would rather fight for my children. If I were living in the DR right now and Trujillo was still in power, I’d take my family and leave the country. I’m sure some people would say it’s coward-ish, to say, You’ve got to pick your battles. But without oversimplifying life, I really believe that. For these sisters, they chose to fight for freedom from oppression. All people deserve that basic right. Their story inspires me, and I have so much respect for them. I think some people are born with the character and abilities to do these things.

]]> By: Emily M. http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11443 Emily M. Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:24:07 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11443 Heather, what a thought-provoking post. Segullah is lucky to have you! I need to look up that book. I don't know if I could have or should have sacrificed my kids to help bring down a dictator. But that's what those women chose to do, and I hope that their kids honored the ideals their mothers fought for. To derail the thread a little: there are less-dramatic parallels to the working-mother / SAHM debate. Is it worth sacrificing the time with your kids so that you can make a valuable, but non-SAHM contribution to the world? For some people it absolutely is; for others, no. Heather, what a thought-provoking post. Segullah is lucky to have you! I need to look up that book.

I don’t know if I could have or should have sacrificed my kids to help bring down a dictator. But that’s what those women chose to do, and I hope that their kids honored the ideals their mothers fought for.

To derail the thread a little: there are less-dramatic parallels to the working-mother / SAHM debate. Is it worth sacrificing the time with your kids so that you can make a valuable, but non-SAHM contribution to the world? For some people it absolutely is; for others, no.

]]> By: Proud Daughter of Eve http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11441 Proud Daughter of Eve Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:46:07 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11441 I'm with Tracy M. I don't want to have to be a revolutionary. I wouldn't want to endanger my children like that or risk leaving them motherless. On the other hand, if taking that risk meant the difference between them growing up under such terrible conditions, then I think it's a risk I would have to take. I’m with Tracy M. I don’t want to have to be a revolutionary. I wouldn’t want to endanger my children like that or risk leaving them motherless. On the other hand, if taking that risk meant the difference between them growing up under such terrible conditions, then I think it’s a risk I would have to take.

]]> By: tracy m http://segullah.org/up-close/book-reviews/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11438 tracy m Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:11:53 +0000 http://segullah.org/segullah-article-discussions/in-the-time-of-the-butterflies/#comment-11438 Wow. I don't think I'm cut from Revolutionary cloth, either. But, I have to ask myself, would that be the case if our own country were to suddely lose sight of the Constitution, human rights and civil liberties... It's hard to tell what we would do from our safe and comfortable vantage point. From here, I can't imagine my children losing their mother- however, at this point, I don't have to consider them living under a totalitarian dictatorship, either. (whatever anyone's thoughts on the current administration aside). It would seem, contemplating history, our true selves can surprise us when times are full of fire. Mariposa. How beautiful- I will be looking for this and reading it soon. Thanks for the review, and I'm looking forward to you being here at Segullah. Wow. I don’t think I’m cut from Revolutionary cloth, either. But, I have to ask myself, would that be the case if our own country were to suddely lose sight of the Constitution, human rights and civil liberties… It’s hard to tell what we would do from our safe and comfortable vantage point.

From here, I can’t imagine my children losing their mother- however, at this point, I don’t have to consider them living under a totalitarian dictatorship, either. (whatever anyone’s thoughts on the current administration aside).

It would seem, contemplating history, our true selves can surprise us when times are full of fire.

Mariposa. How beautiful- I will be looking for this and reading it soon. Thanks for the review, and I’m looking forward to you being here at Segullah.

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