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		<title>By: Date Bait Dad &#171; Course Correction</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/up-close/up-close-rushing-into-remarriage/#comment-167573</link>
		<dc:creator>Date Bait Dad &#171; Course Correction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with children, Golden age romance, Motherless children, Remarriage, Step-parents  Adults often object to a widowed parent’s remarriage. But children generally long to have an absent parent, especially a mother, replaced—not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the writer</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/up-close/up-close-rushing-into-remarriage/#comment-167457</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Allie and Gilgamesh. You&#039;ve expressed such important thoughts.

As you said, Allie, there is value in being single. There is value in finding yourself. And Gilgamesh, you are so right, my dad has spent his life &#039;doing things.&#039; He has many, many acquaintances but few true friends for emotional support. As children, we do the best we can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Allie and Gilgamesh. You&#8217;ve expressed such important thoughts.</p>
<p>As you said, Allie, there is value in being single. There is value in finding yourself. And Gilgamesh, you are so right, my dad has spent his life &#8216;doing things.&#8217; He has many, many acquaintances but few true friends for emotional support. As children, we do the best we can.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilgamesh</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/up-close/up-close-rushing-into-remarriage/#comment-167421</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilgamesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also once heard someone say that when a man remarries quickly, it was a testament to how happy he was in his marriage. I think that means that he was so in sync with living with a partner and sharing a life together that he desires to find someone to share with.&quot;

This view, most likely, was started by a man.

I have worked in grief support for nearly 10 years and this is not uncommon. Men, in general, are not comfortable experiencing the deep pain of grief. They have spent their lives at work and busy doing &quot;things.&quot; Women, in general, are more social and build relationships throughout their lives. When a wife dies, the husband does not have an emotional support network to journey with him through the grief. I wife, again generally, does. To fill this voin, men quickly remarry - often to younger versions of their wife, or to the opposite - as if to remove reminders of the pain of the loss. Unfortunately families get lost in the mix. 

When my mother died, my dad instantly began talking remarriage. We tald him to wait at least a year (grief takes time) before making any buig decisions. At the end of the year, he moved closer to my sisters and has the emotional support he has needed to deal with his grief. It has now been six years and remarriage has never come up. In my opinion he was lonely, but not in need of a wife. Had he remarried, it could have been disastrous for all involved. He is now happy and fulfilled.

Grief is not something you can sweep under the rug. It needs to be expressed. When remarriage occurs, if the grief is not dealt with - it has the potential to be expressed toward the children or new spouse. 

If he truly loves this woman, he can wait a year to marry her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I also once heard someone say that when a man remarries quickly, it was a testament to how happy he was in his marriage. I think that means that he was so in sync with living with a partner and sharing a life together that he desires to find someone to share with.&#8221;</p>
<p>This view, most likely, was started by a man.</p>
<p>I have worked in grief support for nearly 10 years and this is not uncommon. Men, in general, are not comfortable experiencing the deep pain of grief. They have spent their lives at work and busy doing &#8220;things.&#8221; Women, in general, are more social and build relationships throughout their lives. When a wife dies, the husband does not have an emotional support network to journey with him through the grief. I wife, again generally, does. To fill this voin, men quickly remarry &#8211; often to younger versions of their wife, or to the opposite &#8211; as if to remove reminders of the pain of the loss. Unfortunately families get lost in the mix. </p>
<p>When my mother died, my dad instantly began talking remarriage. We tald him to wait at least a year (grief takes time) before making any buig decisions. At the end of the year, he moved closer to my sisters and has the emotional support he has needed to deal with his grief. It has now been six years and remarriage has never come up. In my opinion he was lonely, but not in need of a wife. Had he remarried, it could have been disastrous for all involved. He is now happy and fulfilled.</p>
<p>Grief is not something you can sweep under the rug. It needs to be expressed. When remarriage occurs, if the grief is not dealt with &#8211; it has the potential to be expressed toward the children or new spouse. </p>
<p>If he truly loves this woman, he can wait a year to marry her.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/up-close/up-close-rushing-into-remarriage/#comment-167155</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometimes feel sorry for people who can&#039;t be alone because of its sanctifying opportunity.  I was single until I was 32, and found this experience to be challenging, but ultimately rewarding.  It gave me the chance to grow closer to God than ever before.  I was able to stand back and observe other peoples&#039; marriages, noticing behaviors and actions that brought happiness or misery, respectively.  I was also able to serve in unique ways that strengthened my family. As a result, its always bothered me when people rush into relationships just because they can&#039;t stand to be alone.  I&#039;m speaking generally, of course.  I see widowed individuals do this too often, unfortunately and it can harm their families.  I guess I just want to offer my experience that singlehood can bring sanctification and consecration if we allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes feel sorry for people who can&#8217;t be alone because of its sanctifying opportunity.  I was single until I was 32, and found this experience to be challenging, but ultimately rewarding.  It gave me the chance to grow closer to God than ever before.  I was able to stand back and observe other peoples&#8217; marriages, noticing behaviors and actions that brought happiness or misery, respectively.  I was also able to serve in unique ways that strengthened my family. As a result, its always bothered me when people rush into relationships just because they can&#8217;t stand to be alone.  I&#8217;m speaking generally, of course.  I see widowed individuals do this too often, unfortunately and it can harm their families.  I guess I just want to offer my experience that singlehood can bring sanctification and consecration if we allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle L.</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/up-close/up-close-rushing-into-remarriage/#comment-167017</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your story Lei. Bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your story Lei. Bless you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lei</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/up-close/up-close-rushing-into-remarriage/#comment-166915</link>
		<dc:creator>Lei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this sounds so much like my own life.  My parents had a tumultuous relationship, which ended in divorce when I was 28.  It was a long time coming and needed to happen.  My mother was very abusive, and my father was very passive.  Just a couple months later my father became engaged to another woman and a few days later my mother took her life. When my father first introduced us to the woman he was dating we were so happy for him.  And we liked her, although she was quiet and didn&#039;t really let us get to know her. But we were happy for him and a chance at new beginnings.  We could see she made him happy.  When my mother died we were all shocked and upset and turned to our father for support.  She was resistant to that, which caught us completely off guard.  All the sudden she had soemthing to say?  And before long we were hearing things like we needed to &quot;grow up&quot; and let him have his life.  He began to withdraw more and more.  We began to realize how many of the same personality traits she had as our mother.  And the rest is history.  I am currently not on spekaing terms with my father at all and it is heartbreaking for me.

So, in reference to your questions, at least from my perspective:     

What do you think is an appropriate time frame to start dating after a death or a divorce? 
6 months to a year

How can I watch my father kneel across the altar with this woman, share a home with her, create a new life, with my mother’s dying moments seared across my eyes?

I understand why this is so difficult for you. The dynamic of the family at the time of loss has a huge impact on what is an appropriate response.  There definitely needs to be a healing time for the family as a whole, not just as individuals, in a situation like mine or where battling an illness was involved or soemthing similar like that.  If it wasn&#039;t just old age that took your mother&#039;s life; if it was not expected; then timing is definitely an issue worth considering.  This has impacted not only my/our relationship with my father but each other (siblings) as well.  We have all healed in our own time frames and have learned that sensitivity to not being in the same place at the same time is crucial.

I hope that helps and I hope you find peace with this soon.  hang in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this sounds so much like my own life.  My parents had a tumultuous relationship, which ended in divorce when I was 28.  It was a long time coming and needed to happen.  My mother was very abusive, and my father was very passive.  Just a couple months later my father became engaged to another woman and a few days later my mother took her life. When my father first introduced us to the woman he was dating we were so happy for him.  And we liked her, although she was quiet and didn&#8217;t really let us get to know her. But we were happy for him and a chance at new beginnings.  We could see she made him happy.  When my mother died we were all shocked and upset and turned to our father for support.  She was resistant to that, which caught us completely off guard.  All the sudden she had soemthing to say?  And before long we were hearing things like we needed to &#8220;grow up&#8221; and let him have his life.  He began to withdraw more and more.  We began to realize how many of the same personality traits she had as our mother.  And the rest is history.  I am currently not on spekaing terms with my father at all and it is heartbreaking for me.</p>
<p>So, in reference to your questions, at least from my perspective:     </p>
<p>What do you think is an appropriate time frame to start dating after a death or a divorce?<br />
6 months to a year</p>
<p>How can I watch my father kneel across the altar with this woman, share a home with her, create a new life, with my mother’s dying moments seared across my eyes?</p>
<p>I understand why this is so difficult for you. The dynamic of the family at the time of loss has a huge impact on what is an appropriate response.  There definitely needs to be a healing time for the family as a whole, not just as individuals, in a situation like mine or where battling an illness was involved or soemthing similar like that.  If it wasn&#8217;t just old age that took your mother&#8217;s life; if it was not expected; then timing is definitely an issue worth considering.  This has impacted not only my/our relationship with my father but each other (siblings) as well.  We have all healed in our own time frames and have learned that sensitivity to not being in the same place at the same time is crucial.</p>
<p>I hope that helps and I hope you find peace with this soon.  hang in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Scattered by nature</title>
		<link>http://segullah.org/up-close/up-close-rushing-into-remarriage/#comment-166889</link>
		<dc:creator>Scattered by nature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa and Michelle,
It wasn&#039;t my intention to come across as insensitive and I assure you I&#039;m not. My mom passed when I was 12 yrs old, so I know the pain of loosing a parent and the other one wanting to remarry. My father didn&#039;t marry again and died 6 years later when I was 18. As an adult I felt sad he ended up alone and wonder if he would have lived longer had he had a companion. I wish my kids had had their grandpa and maybe a step grandma when they were growing up.

I think the writers father could have presented the engagement in a more sensitive way and maybe chosen someone the family could accept, but he didn&#039;t. He chose someone whom he has known for a long time. Someone HE is comfortable with and can see spending the rest of his life with. Maybe he is feeling some joy for the first time in a long time. We don&#039;t know, but maybe his wife was sick for years and his transition to being alone has been taking place for this period of time. Loosing a parent and loosing a spouse is NOT the same.

I was bothered by this statement:

&quot;We’ve tried to explain to my dad that remarriage this soon after mom’s death would mock her memory and damage his good reputation.&quot; 

I would be mad if my kids said that to me. I don&#039;t agree that it would be a mockery or damage his reputation. That just seems overly dramatic to me.

Non of us knows the whole story of the writer and we&#039;re only getting her side. All we can do is judge it from our own perspective/life experiences. Some comments will appear harsh and some more sympathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa and Michelle,<br />
It wasn&#8217;t my intention to come across as insensitive and I assure you I&#8217;m not. My mom passed when I was 12 yrs old, so I know the pain of loosing a parent and the other one wanting to remarry. My father didn&#8217;t marry again and died 6 years later when I was 18. As an adult I felt sad he ended up alone and wonder if he would have lived longer had he had a companion. I wish my kids had had their grandpa and maybe a step grandma when they were growing up.</p>
<p>I think the writers father could have presented the engagement in a more sensitive way and maybe chosen someone the family could accept, but he didn&#8217;t. He chose someone whom he has known for a long time. Someone HE is comfortable with and can see spending the rest of his life with. Maybe he is feeling some joy for the first time in a long time. We don&#8217;t know, but maybe his wife was sick for years and his transition to being alone has been taking place for this period of time. Loosing a parent and loosing a spouse is NOT the same.</p>
<p>I was bothered by this statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;We’ve tried to explain to my dad that remarriage this soon after mom’s death would mock her memory and damage his good reputation.&#8221; </p>
<p>I would be mad if my kids said that to me. I don&#8217;t agree that it would be a mockery or damage his reputation. That just seems overly dramatic to me.</p>
<p>Non of us knows the whole story of the writer and we&#8217;re only getting her side. All we can do is judge it from our own perspective/life experiences. Some comments will appear harsh and some more sympathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heathermommy
:) I get where you are coming from and your devotion to your husband is admirable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heathermommy<br />
 <img src='http://segullah.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I get where you are coming from and your devotion to your husband is admirable.</p>
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		<title>By: heathermommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>heathermommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela T.

I get you are saying but that analogy does not work for me. There is a huge difference betwen the love a parent has for a child and the love you have for your spouse. Of course I could love a gazillion children but druly deeply, commitedly, only love one spouse. We are counseled to become one flesh with our spouse and to make them our #1 priority. That just doesn&#039;t work if you have 2 or more women who are supposed to be your #1 priority. To me one of the reasons that my relationship with my husband is so special is because we give ourselves only to eachother. 

So many people remarry and I know that my view isn&#039;t a popular one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela T.</p>
<p>I get you are saying but that analogy does not work for me. There is a huge difference betwen the love a parent has for a child and the love you have for your spouse. Of course I could love a gazillion children but druly deeply, commitedly, only love one spouse. We are counseled to become one flesh with our spouse and to make them our #1 priority. That just doesn&#8217;t work if you have 2 or more women who are supposed to be your #1 priority. To me one of the reasons that my relationship with my husband is so special is because we give ourselves only to eachother. </p>
<p>So many people remarry and I know that my view isn&#8217;t a popular one.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Melissa M. 

As one who has just lost a parent, I&#039;ll witness that the impact is profound. A person&#039;s very identity is tied to their parents&#039; relationship and when the status of that relationship changes an &quot;identity crisis&quot; can result no matter what the age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Melissa M. </p>
<p>As one who has just lost a parent, I&#8217;ll witness that the impact is profound. A person&#8217;s very identity is tied to their parents&#8217; relationship and when the status of that relationship changes an &#8220;identity crisis&#8221; can result no matter what the age.</p>
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