So, I interviewed Kathy Soper the other day. For those not in the know, she is the editor of Segullah. She’s got seven kids (yep, she’s an angel), and she has managed to keep us all on task at Segullah (She’s an organized angel)! Here was our conversation.

PhotobucketHey Kathy. Why don’t you introduce yourself.

Okay. I’m Kathy, soon to be thirty-five years old. Happy to be LDS, happy to be married to Reed Soper, happy even to be living in Utah. But I do miss the trees–though not the humidity–of Maryland, my childhood homeland. And I admit I like Salt Lake valley better than her much-maligned sister. I had a rocky start with Provo culture when I arrived in ’89, but I ended up marrying my home teacher, so it all ended well. I have a BA in English, and I’m interested in pursuing an MFA in creative non-fiction someday, when I’m no longer inundated with sippy cups and diapers. I have seven kids; the oldest just turned 13 and the youngest is almost a year old.

How does a woman with seven kids manage to be editor of a literary journal?

I ignore my kids a lot. Seriously. Of course, it’s all relative–I think I ignore them a normal, healthy amount. But in my early years of motherhood I was a total cruise director, so it’s taken me a while to be comfortable with any ignoring.

What spurred the change?

Crashing after 10 years of trying to be a model LDS mom. Over those years I had heard hundreds of ideas for raising a super-spiritual family, and I felt duty-bound to do them all. At once. After my sixth child was born, I was burned out. Literally. I was trailing ashes wherever I went. Then I began writing. I wrote my first piece in 2003, Shaulee’s Door. The writing was very therapeutic, a way to work through and understand a series of life-changing experiences. It was incredibly demanding, yet rewarding. I don’t think there’s anything more interesting than plumbing daily life for its meaning, finding connections, making discoveries.

Why did you decide to start a journal?

I like to think big. There weren’t many steps between writing my first essay and launching the journal. I got a little writing group going with some very talented friends, and before much of anything happened, we were expanding our plans and creating a publication.

But there are so many other independent LDS-based publications. Why add another?

There’s no other forum like this one. We’re unabashedly loyal to the Church, its leadership, and its established doctrines and standards. Yet we’re not afraid to ask tough questions and look at complex issues. Some of the heavy topics we’ve addressed are homosexuality, sexual abuse, infertility, and death of a child–each of these pieces has been solidly faith-promoting. Our upcoming issue includes hope-filled stories about abortion and mental illness. This is not your typical Relief Society fodder. But it helps to build the kingdom in a rich, exciting way.

How so?

By cracking the “Sunday mask” that many of us wear when we discuss spiritual things. As LDS we take great stock in a black-and-white realm of universal truths. Yet we live those truths in complex lives full of struggles, emotions, questions. When we’re open with each other about the ups and downs of our lives, we can encourage and comfort each other, and we can celebrate the joys of mortality, as well as eternity.

How would you describe Segullah in 10 words or less?

Insightful and inspiring. Probing, yet positive. Artistic but accessible. (Do I get bonus points for alliteration?)

And how about you?

Kathy Soper in 10 words or less. Oh, that’s a lot harder. Hmm. Recovering guilt hog, fledgling Christian, unconventional wife/mother, internet addict…

How are you unconventional?

I’m not big on domestic arts. If I never had to cook another meal out of duty, I’d be ecstatic. I only bathe my toddlers when absolutely necessary. I only garden at gunpoint. I dust maybe twice a year. I deeply admire women who dig homemaking, but I’d much rather be writing a book. Also, I’m a big goof. I managed to squelch my goofiness for several years, but now its back with a vengeance. Ten years ago I played Primary CDs for my kids, now I’m more likely to join them in a lip synch of Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody.”

I’ll bet they love it.

Yeah, they’re pretty much doomed to be goofs too. It’s a family thing. I once told my kids that I married their father because we were both weird in the same way. About half of our dialogue consists of quotes from TV commercials, films, and song lyrics. The mid-eighties is our specialty. It’s gotten worse the longer we’ve been married. I fear that by the time we’re sixty, we’ll be incapable of normal speech altogether.

So how does he feel about your writing projects?

He’s supportive. He knows how much happier I am when I have something to work on other than potty-training. But he’d be happier if I could type and scratch his back at the same time.

What have you been working on lately?

Writing a solid essay takes a lot of time and sweat, so my collection of works is small, but steadily growing. I’ve done some pieces for Segullah. I blog as Queen Serene on I’ve just finished editing (and contributing to) a book titled Gifts, a collection of personal stories written by mothers of children with Down syndrome (my baby, Thomas, has DS). I’ve also begun a solo book project. And with the Segullah staff members, I’m working on an anthology of personal essays and poetry about the early years of motherhood.

Thanks for the chat. Readers, feel free to ask questions of your own!


  1. chronicler

    September 13, 2006

    Kathy, thank you for the intro. I love that you don’t dust. I figure the domestic arts are like grocery shopping. Sometimes you feel like fruit loops(baking cookies) and sometimes good old wheaties(dusting) fill the bill. Unfortunately, wheaties, only gets bought twice a year or so. 🙂

    Thank you and your group of writers. I have enjoyed Segullah from the onset. I look forward to the ensuing discussions on the blog.

  2. Johnna

    September 14, 2006

    in her early years of motherhood she was a total cruise director. rotfl, love it! I used to do some minor tour guiding myself.

  3. annegb

    September 14, 2006

    And let me tell you how cool this woman is. I’ve sent her my essays for my column in the paper and she edits them and sends them right back. How do you have time for that, I wonder? Plus she does it for free.

    I get Segullah in the mail and share it with all my friends. It’s truly a wonder.

  4. Karen

    September 14, 2006

    I’ve been practicing the art of selective ingnoring for years now. I am happy to know someone else does. Kathy I am glad I found your blog, and Segullah, and Gifts. Because when I’m ignoring, I like to be reading. And it is nice to have inspiring, uplifting, thought provoking things to read!

  5. Angie

    September 14, 2006

    I am a strong believer that toddlers do NOT need a bath every day.

  6. Heather H.

    September 14, 2006

    Kathy, I’m inspired! I’ll leave it at that with a big, fat thank you!

  7. Darlene

    September 14, 2006

    Tell us more about your background. Were you born into the church, or are you a convert? Have you always been active? I love your personal take on the gospel. How have you come to your current understanding of the gospel?

  8. Kathy

    September 14, 2006

    First of all, thanks to everyone for making nice comments. Bless you, bless you. Chronicler, your analogy was right on! annegb, for pete’s sake don’t tell everyone I edit for free… 🙂

    (Yes, I do emoticate. I resisted it for a while, but it’s just too handy to avoid.)

    Darlene, those are great questions. To make a long story short, I’ll break my spiritual life into tidy bites for you.

    Young, active, and naive, age 7-11 (my mom converted when I was 7; I was as baptized at eight, after taking the missionary discussions)

    Young, less active, and resentful, age 12-14

    Less young, even less active, and miserable, age 15-18

    Snatched from the jaws of hell, grateful, yet flaky, age 18-20

    Convert on fire, age 21-23

    Pious supermom wanna-be, age 24-32

    Bottomed-out, confused yet loyal changeling, age 33-34

    Currently: Only hindsight will provide the tidy title.

    My testimony of Christ, his gospel, and his church is stronger than it’s ever been, but my whole concept of what living the gospel means is in a state of flux. Lately, I feel like my whole paradigm of living has been ripped to shreds and that I’m a newcomer to a strange yet beautiful place. It’s taken 35 years, but I’m starting to actually feel the peace that the truth brings. It’s stunning.

    As for how this latest stage has evolved… that’s what I’m writing my book about. When I get it figured out I’ll share.

    Thanks for asking!!

  9. Bekah

    September 15, 2006

    Kathy! It’s your cousin Bekah. YOU??? Ignoring your kids??? I am shocked! Haha! I am totally jealous that you have somehow found the time to follow something that inspires you…. if you can do it then I should be able to, but we’ll see. With 2 kids, a job and a husband that’s thousands of miles away, I’m lucky if I have time to take a bath myself! Don’t worry, I always fit it in somehow. 🙂 I was LOL @ your “snatched from the jaws of hell” comment… I think we might have some pictures of you just prior to the snatching… har har! Email me sometime! Love Bekah

  10. Kathy

    September 15, 2006

    Bekah, great to hear from you! Yeah, those photos would make an interesting “before and after” wouldn’t they? And hey–if you’re managing to bathe regularly, I’d say you’re way ahead of the game.

  11. Courtney

    September 19, 2006

    And even though you emoticate (did you make up that word dear editor?)I still think that you are every woman in the world to me.

  12. Kathy

    September 19, 2006

    Anyone who quotes Air Supply so effortlessly wins an honorary membership in the Soper Weirdness club.

  13. Rebecca P.

    September 20, 2006

    What a wonderful interview Kathy. I am honored to call you my friend.

  14. Heather B.

    September 27, 2006

    If I don’t mark on my calender when my kids were bathed last, it might be two weeks. (so I faithfuly mark, ew, but it’s still maybe twice a week. If I remembered to mark the calender. Which sometimes I don’t….pause for sniff test….hang on, let me run the water….)

    And I firmly believe that ignoring children is a great way to promote creative play. As long as that creative play does not in any way involve crayons, my serger, or the iron, I’m cool with that. And even crayons are ok- I have magic erasers.

  15. Kristen

    September 29, 2006

    hi kathy,
    reading your interview reminded me of the good talk we had that day at your house. thank you for teaching me something about consecration is different for everyone, how it is still acceptable and sacred even if I am not the “homemaker” that everybody thinks I should be.


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