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Thursday’s Book Club Discussion Questions: Ladies (and Gentlemen) Start Your Pondering!

By Angela Hallstrom

This Thursday we’ll be discussing Edith Wharton’s classic novel The Age of Innocence. If you’re a quick reader, you still have time to get it read. You can even download the Kindle version for free. The movie version is also free for those of you who have a Netflix account. (But if you do watch the movie, which is actually quite loyal to the novel, remember this one important difference: in the novel, Ellen Olenska isn’t necessarily a ravishing beauty. So don’t let Michelle Pfeiffer fool you on that count!)

In order to give us a few days to ponder or even write up a response or two, here are the questions I’d like to discuss on Tuesday, with a couple of quotes for us to chew on as well. (Warning: Spoilers ahead!):

“[Archer] delighted in the radiant good looks of his betrothed [May], in her health, her horsemanship, her grace and quickness at games, and the shy interest in books and ideas that she was beginning to develop under his guidance. (She had advanced far enough to join him in ridiculing the Idyls of the King, but not to feel the beauty of Ulysses and the Lotus Eaters.) She was straightforward, loyal and brave; she had a sense of humour (chiefly proved by her laughing at his jokes); and he suspected, in the depths of her innocently-gazing soul, a glow of feeling that it would be a joy to waken. But when he had gone the brief round of her he returned discouraged by the thought that all this frankness and innocence were only an artificial product. Untrained human nature was not frank and innocent; it was full of the twists and defences of an instinctive guile. And he felt himself oppressed by this creation of factitious purity, so cunningly manufactured by a conspiracy of mothers and aunts and grandmothers and long-dead ancestresses, because it was supposed to be what he wanted, what he had a right to, in order that he might exercise his lordly pleasure in smashing it like an image made of snow.”

Question: Is May as innocent as Archer believes her to be? How does this innocence both attract and repel him? In our own 21st century Mormon culture, do we continue to engage in the “conspiracy of mothers and aunts and grandmothers and long-dead ancestresses” to create what Archer sees as a “factitious [female] purity,” or is our idealized version of womanhood different than the one embodied by May Welland in the novel? If there are similarities, how does this idealized version of womanhood affect modern-day LDS marriages?

“I say, father: what was [Ellen] like?” [Dallas, Archer’s adult son, asked].

Archer felt his colour rise under his son’s unabashed gaze. “Come, own up: you and she were great pals, weren’t you? Wasn’t she most awfully lovely?”

“Lovely? I don’t know. She was different.”

“Ah—there you have it! That’s what it always comes to, doesn’t it? When she comes, she’s different—and one doesn’t know why. It’s exactly what I feel about [my fiance] Fanny.”

His father drew back a step, releasing his arm. “About Fanny? But, my dear fellow—I should hope so! Only I don’t see—”

“Dash it, Dad, don’t be prehistoric! Wasn’t she— once—your Fanny?”

Dallas belonged body and soul to the new generation. He was the first-born of Newland and May Archer, yet it had never been possible to inculcate in him even the rudiments of reserve. “What’s the use of making mysteries? It only makes people want to nose ’em out,” he always objected when enjoined to discretion. But Archer, meeting his eyes, saw the filial light under their banter.

“My Fanny—?”

“Well, the woman you’d have chucked everything for: only you didn’t,” continued his surprising son.

“I didn’t,” echoed Archer with a kind of solemnity.

“No. But mother said—”

“Your mother?”

“Yes: the day before she died. It was when she sent for me alone—you remember? She said she knew we were safe with you, and always would be, because once, when she asked you to, you’d given up the thing you most wanted.”

Archer received this strange communication in silence. His eyes remained unseeingly fixed on the thronged sunlit square below the window. At length he said in a low voice: “She never asked me.”

“No. I forgot. You never did ask each other anything, did you? And you never told each other anything. You just sat and watched each other, and guessed at what was going on underneath. A deaf-and-dumb asylum, in fact! . . . ”

. . . After a little while [Archer] did not regret Dallas’s indiscretion. It seemed to take an iron band from his heart to know that, after all, some one had guessed and pitied. . . . And that it should have been his wife moved him indescribably. Dallas, for all his affectionate insight, would not have understood that. To the boy, no doubt, the episode was only a pathetic instance of vain frustration, of wasted forces. But was it really no more?

Question: Did Archer make the right decision in marrying, and staying married to, May? Would he have been happier with Ellen? The publisher’s reading guide asks this question: “Is it moral and honorable to protect others at the expense of one’s happiness? Is duty to one’s community more important than duty to oneself?” What parallels to you see between the society Wharton depicts in this novel, with its emphasis on early marriage, long-term commitment, and duty for the sake of family and community, and Mormon culture today?

Looking forward to our discussion on Thursday!

About Angela Hallstrom

(Advisory Board) grew up in Utah, then moved to Minnesota, then came back to Utah, then packed up her husband and four kids and moved to Minnesota--again!-- in the summer of 2010. Although she loves the Land of 10,000 Lakes, she dearly misses Slurpees, Sunday dinners at her Mom's house, and eating a whole entire Cafe Rio pork salad while lunching with her Utah-based Segullah sisters. And yes, she finds it telling that everything she misses about her hometown is somehow related to food. She has an BA in English from BYU, an MFA in creative writing from Hamline University, and has taught writing to high school and college students.

3 thoughts on “Thursday’s Book Club Discussion Questions: Ladies (and Gentlemen) Start Your Pondering!”

  1. I read this book a few years ago and I've never forgotten it. For anyone who has ever confused innocence with goodness, it truly does provide a long look in the mirror 🙂

  2. An excellent read with uncanny parallels to Mormon culture. I just wish I'd bought a copy instead of checking it out from the library, so I could mark it up and keep my post-it flags intact. Looking forward to Thursday!


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